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« on: July 02, 2008, 09:50:26 PM » |
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10.0mL of 0.10M Pb(NO3)2 is mixed with 10.0mL of 0.10M NaCl. After equilibrium is attained, it is determined that the concentration of Cl- in solution is 0.0218M. Calculate the Ksp of PbCl2.Pb(NO 3) 2 + 2NaCl -> PbCl 2 + 2NaNO 3(0.10mol Pb(NO 3) 2 / 1.0L) * 0.010L = 0.001mol Pb(NO 3) 2(0.10mol NaCl / 1.0L) * 0.010L = 0.001mol NaCl | Pb(NO3)2 | 2NaCl | PbCl2 | 2NaNO3 | | Initial | 0.001mol | 0.001mol | 0.000mol | 0.000mol |
And... I have no idea where to go after that. I realize K sp = [Pb +][2Cl -] but I'm at a loss where to go. A sample of solid CaF2 is placed into a test tube of water and allowed to reach equilibrium. Calculate the equilibrium concentrations of Ca2+ and F-, given the Ksp of CaF2 = 3.9 x 10-11Yay. I figured out this one this morning. I was WAY overcomplicating it. 3.9x10 -11 = [Ca 2+][F -] 23.9x10 -11 = (x)(2x) 23.9x10 -11 = 4x 3x = 2.14x10 -4[Ca 2+] = x = 2.14x10 -4[F -] = 2x = 2(2.14x10 -4) = 4.27x10 -4
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 11:15:51 AM » |
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Let's start by getting rid of the spectator ions: Pb+2(aq) + 2Cl-(aq) --> PbCl2 (s) Then let's do an ICE diagram (moles of Cl- at equil = .028X.020L= .00056mol) Initial 0.001mol 0.001mol Change -x -2x Equil .001 -x .00056
Moles of Cl- reacted = .001 - .00056 = .00044mol = 2x
Moles of Pb reacted = .00044/2 = .00022 mol Cl- (aq) Moles of Pb remaining in solution at equil = .001 - .00044 = .00056 mol Pb+2 (aq)
Ksp = [Pb+2] [Cl-]^2 = (.00056) (.00022)^2
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 03:39:29 PM » |
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Doing it that way comes out with Ksp ~ 2.71x10-11 which is pretty far off from 1.7x10-5 (which is approx what it should be).
Hmm, I'll have to think about this one some more.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 05:06:13 PM » |
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I think I figured it out.  Pb(NO 3) 2 + 2NaCl -> PbCl 2 + 2NaNO 3Moles of NaCl = 0.10mol/1L * 0.010L = 0.001mol NaCl or 0.001mol Na + and 0.001mol Cl -Moles of Cl - at equilibrium = 0.0218mol/1L * 0.020L = 0.000436mol Cl -Moles of Cl - reacted = 0.001mol Cl - - 0.000436mol Cl - = 0.000564mol Cl -Moles of Pb reacted = 0.000436mol Pb +/2 = 0.000218mol Cl - <-- Should this be 0.000564mol/2 instead? Moles of Pb left in solution = 0.001mol Pb + - 0.000218mol = 0.000782mol Pb +K sp = [Pb +][Cl -] 2[Cl -] = 0.000436mol/0.020L = 0.0218M [Pb 2+] = 0.00782mol/0.020L = 0.0391M K sp = (0.0391)(0.0218) 2 = 1.86x10 -5That's close enough to 1.7x10 -5 I think (hope).
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 08:10:44 PM » |
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Your right, I forgot to convert the moles of Pb+2 and Cl- back into molarity by dividing by the volume.
Good job!
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2008, 08:18:42 AM » |
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hi chrisf, A sample of solid CaF2 is placed into a test tube of water and allowed to reach equilibrium. Calculate the equilibrium concentrations of Ca2+ and F-, given the Ksp of CaF2 = 3.9 x 10-11
looked very similar to my homework but the only thing is mine is asking for CAF2 not them separate so how would i find the answer to it?
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2008, 08:30:06 AM » |
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hi chrisf, A sample of solid CaF2 is placed into a test tube of water and allowed to reach equilibrium. Calculate the equilibrium concentrations of Ca2+ and F-, given the Ksp of CaF2 = 3.9 x 10-11
looked very similar to my homework but the only thing is mine is asking for CAF2 not them separate so how would i find the answer to it?
CaF2 is a solid. You can't have a concentration of a solid.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2008, 08:44:27 AM » |
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The mineral fluorite is composed of CAF2. The molar solubility of calcium fluoride in water is 2.1X106-4 moles/L. what is the Ksp of CaF2?
thats what my equation
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2008, 08:54:32 AM » |
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Ksp = [Ca2+][F-]2
Ksp = (2.1X10-4)(4.2X10-4)2
Ksp = 3.70x10-11
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 09:46:27 AM » |
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hi yes! thats how I thought you did that one thank you! ok I hope you dont mind answering one more question for me what ratio of benzoate ion to benzoic acid would be required to prepare a buffer with a pH of 7.20? Ka(C6H5COOH)=6.5X10-4 ok what I did so far was find H+ since they gave you the pH and I got 6.30X10-8 I found OH by dividing (1X10-14)/(6.30X10-8) to get 1.58X-7 so I was woundering if Im suppose to conugate base/acid(ka)?? 
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 11:23:32 AM » |
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I'll try to get back to you on this later today or tomorrow, but first write out your complete reaction.
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 03:56:06 PM » |
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The system you are describing is a buffer made up of benzoic acid (a weak acid = HBenz), and its conjugate base (benzoate ion = Benz-)
Using the symbols above for benzoic acid and benzoate ion, here is the equation:
HBenz <===> H+ + Benz-
The Ka expression for the above equilibrium is Ka = [H+] [Benz-] / [HBenz]
Rearranging to solve for [H+] we get [H+] = Ka ([HBenz]/[Benz-]
What this tells us is that the [H+] (and thus the pH is dependent on two things: 1) the Ka of the acid (which is fixed) 2) the ratio of the concentration of the benzoic acid to benzoate ion (which can be varied.
Since we know the [H+] (you found that to be 6.30 x 10-8 above), you can look up the Ka value for benzoic acid, and then calculate the ratio: [Benz-]/[HBenz] = Ka/ [H+]
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 08:17:58 PM » |
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hi spock, this was homework, and my teacher let us know we would be given ka, and it wasn't on my sheet. since I got H+ what do I do next? do I find OH- too? and Im looking at your equation of [Benz-]/[HBenz] = Ka/ [H+] couldn't I just use 6.30X10-8 (for the H+ HBenz) and the OH-Benz to get the ka??
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 08:28:48 AM » |
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You are given the Ka in the problem: 6.5 x 10-5 (I think you have a typo as I check the Ka in a textbook and found it listed as 6.5 x10-5 rather than 6.5 x 10-4)
You found the [H+] to be 6.30 x 10-8:
Since the ratio of [Benz-]/[HBenz] = Ka/[H+] it must be equal to
6.5 x 10-5/6.30 x 10-8 = 1031
That seems like a very high ratio for an effective buffer. Buffers are usually pretty close to a 1:1 ratio (say .5M Benz- to .5M HBenz). In this case you would need something like .5M Benz to .00485 M HBenz.
You should be aware that [H+] is not equal to [HBenz] in a buffer. Nor is [OH-]=[Benz-]. So, while you could find the [OH-], it is not useful in finding the Ka value in this case.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 08:07:06 PM » |
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I think I figured it out.  Pb(NO 3) 2 + 2NaCl -> PbCl 2 + 2NaNO 3Moles of NaCl = 0.10mol/1L * 0.010L = 0.001mol NaCl or 0.001mol Na + and 0.001mol Cl -Moles of Cl - at equilibrium = 0.0218mol/1L * 0.020L = 0.000436mol Cl -Moles of Cl - reacted = 0.001mol Cl - - 0.000436mol Cl - = 0.000564mol Cl -Moles of Pb reacted = 0.000564mol Pb +/2 = 0.000282mol Pb 2+ Moles of Pb left in solution = 0.001mol Pb + - 0.000282mol = 0.000718mol Pb +K sp = [Pb +][Cl -] 2[Cl -] = 0.000436mol/0.020L = 0.0218M [Pb 2+] = 0.00718mol/0.020L = 0.0359M K sp = ( 0.0359)(0.0218) 2 = 1.70x10 -5I was looking over this problem again yesterday and I noticed a problem. Now it's exactly right.
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